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Close but no cigar? 2 Years, 2 Months ago
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Help, know I am not the 'sharpest in the kit' but please can someone explain this headline? PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE!!! What have I missed?
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Re:Close but no cigar? 2 Years, 2 Months ago
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I found this explanation on t'internet, which is what people generally take it to mean.
The phrase, and its variant 'nice try, but no cigar', are of US origin and date from the mid-20th century. Fairground stalls gave out cigars as prizes, and this is the most likely source, although there's no definitive evidence to prove that.
It is first recorded in print in Sayre and Twist's publishing of the script of the 1935 film version of Annie Oakley:
"Close, Colonel, but no cigar!"
It appears in U. S. newspapers widely from around 1949 onwards. For example, a story from The Lima News, Lima, Ohio, November 1949, where The Lima House Cigar and Sporting Goods Store narrowly avoided being burned down in a fire, was titled 'Close But No Cigar'.
So, we went close, but not close enough to win the 3 points, or the cigar!
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Last Edit: 2010/03/19 17:28 By Billy Pilgrim.
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Re:Close but no cigar? 2 Years, 2 Months ago
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In short it means, "close, but not close enough"
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Re:Close but no cigar? 2 Years, 2 Months ago
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scholar1985 wrote:
In short it means, "close, but not close enough"
...but as I've got nothing better to do, I gave you the long version. 
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Re:Close but no cigar? 2 Years, 2 Months ago
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Good to see you doing your research - Grantham fans will like that
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Re:Close but no cigar? 2 Years, 2 Months ago
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scholar1985 wrote:
Good to see you doing your research - Grantham fans will like that
Grantham you say? Well...
Grantham is a market town within the South Kesteven district of Lincolnshire, England. It stands athwart the East Coast Main Line railway (London-Edinburgh), the historic A1 main north-south road, and the River Witham. Grantham is located approximately 26 miles (42 km) south of the city of Lincoln, and approximately 24 miles (39 km) east of Nottingham. The resident population at the 2001 census was 34,592[1] in around 18,000 households, excluding the adjacent village of Great Gonerby. With the housing estates in Londonthorpe and Harrowby Without (around a population of 4,500), this figure would be around 42,000.
The town is best known as the birthplace of former prime minister Margaret Thatcher, and the place where Isaac Newton went to school. It is within short walking distance of an ancient Roman road, and was the scene of Oliver Cromwell's first advantage over Royalists during the English Civil War at Gonerby Moor. Grantham is also notable for having the first female police officers in the United Kingdom, in 1914, and producing the first running diesel engine in 1892, and the UK's first tractor in 1896.
Most notably, they really really care that we couldn't care less about them 
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Re:Close but no cigar? 2 Years, 2 Months ago
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Billy Pilgrim wrote:
I found this explanation on t'internet, which is what people generally take it to mean.
The phrase, and its variant 'nice try, but no cigar', are of US origin and date from the mid-20th century. Fairground stalls gave out cigars as prizes, and this is the most likely source, although there's no definitive evidence to prove that.
It is first recorded in print in Sayre and Twist's publishing of the script of the 1935 film version of Annie Oakley:
"Close, Colonel, but no cigar!"
It appears in U. S. newspapers widely from around 1949 onwards. For example, a story from The Lima News, Lima, Ohio, November 1949, where The Lima House Cigar and Sporting Goods Store narrowly avoided being burned down in a fire, was titled 'Close But No Cigar'.
So, we went close, but not close enough to win the 3 points, or the cigar!
That's exactly what I was about to post - a lot of sportwriters use this quote to mean "almost - but not quite". Sorry if I confused anyone! 
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Re:Close but no cigar? 2 Years, 2 Months ago
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So who gets to keep the cigar?
Do we get a cigar if we win the play offs?
Do the people of Grantham pray to the giant cigar, the image of their deity Nicholas of the Parsons?
So many questions, so little time. 
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